Where is the bus stop?
Where is the bus stop?
This site does NOT use java script! :- Online bus stop enquiry service - just input your location, road or post code, for a list of bus stops within 1000 meters, select the stop and receive the next ten buses timetabled. The description and the map indicate which side of the road the bus stop details relate to. This site also has by far the most useful bus mapping - it works, no script or flash required- unlike those below- and shows all bus stops within a km of your location (or a specific stop if you prefer). Use the location flag symbols in preference to the blue Google bus stop markers which may be slightly off-place.
Jump to Timetables links
I have included a form to use for National journies. Most of the journey data is fairly up to date but some elements (bus stop locations) may not be refreshed for some months. Live bus journey problems are only covered by individual operator web sites or twitter feeds.
Immediately below, an input form for East Midlands England traveline for journeys to and from anywhere. They have restricted fare and timetable information. See next section for other timetables.
Warning Beware the "towards" indications from Traveline, to travel from Stockport to Stepping Hill they suggest a bus "towards Manchester" - WRONG! Try "away from Manchester" instead. Traveline depends upon data supplied via a national arrangement and some sources may supply incorrect or corrupt files from time to time. Few operating SMA (Manchester) buses were listed for 2nd Jan 2017 and SMA were operating top secret timetables Jan 3rd to 6th- not even available on their own website leaving many people waiting for buses that were not running. Many bus diversions occur (sometimes for weeks) without any local notice or advice to Traveline.
Do try not to call Travelines 0871 telephone number which is a premium call- as at 7/15 it cost 12p per minute PLUS the operators charge which may be over 40p per minute- total over 50p per minute! Definitely a premium charge. And they couldn't assist me when I was waiting for buses that never came either.
National coverage from Traveline East Midlands: National Journey Details
IMPORTANT: traveline INSISTS on giving you train times when you don't want them, and prioritising them to bus times. If you see a train service, there may also be unreported bus services. sigh.
A lovely html (scrapable) format of timetable is available from the regional traveline websites, but only for their area, not nationwide. Here are some timetable resources:
East Midlands (places South of Cheshire and Yorkshire excluding TfL London area)
Transport for Greater Manchester
TfGM timetables or go for the list of bus numbers at new Timetables page which works but is not ideal and some links don't go to the right timetables due to apparent OCR errors. Timetables in pdf format- these are the official timetables and you will see that the high frequency services still have the restrictions (1) "at least every 10 minutes" (no detailed data) and (2) No part route services listed within those ten minutes.
The old county of Cheshire was split in two in 2009 (on 1st April no less) and subsequently subsidised bus services virtually disappeared, notably journies to neighbouring counties almost ceased.
Cheshire no longer has its own bus timetables in accessible format. There are almost no buses anyway. Vast swathes of the the UK now have no buses at all, many only one a week!
|| Lancashire also no longer have their own accessible bus timetables.
Flintshire bus timetables
Bus route maps
Maps of bus services (NOTE These maps may not show the latest route or service changes.):
Cheshire West local area maps || Derbyshire
Greater Manchester area bus route maps are split into large areas, the maps are large 5000 pixel wide jpg images. If you know the bus route number, the timetable (SEE ABOVE) includes a rough map.
Free buses in Greater Manchester::-
Important Note: Manchester roads are subject to wholesale closure for road works and special events. The shuttle buses divert without notice (in one case for 5 months) and without any indication of diverted routes. Cessation of routes for events may be marked on stops. but diversions are usually not indicated on stops. Treat the online maps as indicative and be ready for a long walk.
There are three free buses around Manchester centre, called metroshuttles. Services often enhanced at Christmas (longer operation).
There is one free circular bus in Bolton, one free circular shuttle bus in Stockport.
tfgm metroshuttle maps.
Travelling in Manchester? Note that the tram and rail networks are subject to significant works and disruption. The tram service between Piccadilly Station and Victoria Station is one tram every 12 minutes (Route Bury-Piccadilly Station, Line 4). The Metroshuttle bus 2 runs from Piccadilly Station every 10 minutes up to about 6.15pm. Trams are subject to frequent bus replacement which is not always clearly indicated or signposted. The tram web site can be wrong. Additionally, there are frequent road closures and bus diversions in Manchester (the Council close the city centre frequently for any reason at all!). It is best to avoid Manchester or assume an extra hour on your journey and note it is often faster to walk due to severe traffic congestion.
Twitter feeds for:
Stagecoach Manchester ||
High Peak buses
CARE- Treat all sources of information with doubt especially if your journey is more than a week in the future! Take plenty of food and drink as even a local one hour
journey could end up taking six hours (discovered the hard way...). Train services are now highly unreliable. UK Train times and fares:
Check shortly before travelling and assume regular cancellations. Do not rely on making any connections. Don't expect information or help.
beware of using the so called "information points" at railway stations. Calls are a time restricted telephone call to an off-shore call centre, where English is poor, and information is less than is available on line. They can offer no assistance if you need help and no information on any operating problems. The calls are automatically disconnected, usually before you receive any information. Try a mobile call to the station operator- the number may be on a poster at or near the station. Expect to be stranded.
which has the full official data -as up to date as exists for times- but for fares, there are severe problems with the web site for some journeys. Accessible UK Train Timetables
Note that a ticket price may only cover one particular train booked at one location at one instant! It may be cheaper to split your ticket, especially if you can move a portion of the journey out of peak hours, reduce cross county boundary journeys, or take advantage of greater discounts for shorter journies.
If it goes wrong, remember: if delayed over 30 minutes, have the guard initial/stamp your ticket, keep your ticket, and apply for "compensation", which starts at a minimum of 20% for an hours delay, and depending on operator, may be 100% or rarely more. You may need to contact "Passenger Focus" to resolve problems. The official National Rail website
train delays which only covers major disruption -and Cleared incidents- Train operater Northern lists details of MOST (not all) delays at
Journeycheck but even this can mislead as operational decisions are made and remade on the fly.
Note that in 2018 operators have been avoiding reporting cancelled trains by simply reissuing the timetable a few hours beforehand, you need to check and recheck.
WALES: Arriva- Travel by train in Wales at your own risk! Welsh disruptions may be reported on Arriva train disruption page. You may find yourself on a bus you didn't know about (or standing on a platform as a replacement bus whizzes past outside!) or stranded in the middle of uninhabited countryside with no assistance.
UK Live Train Arrival and Departure Boards gives arrivals and departures in the next few hours. NOTE a train shows as NO REPORT until it passes a reporting point.
Beware of duplicated station names! Do you want Adlington (Lancs) or Adlington (Ches)!
An alternate using Open Rail data is
Trains.im which lists trains arrivals and departures in scheduled order- click the blue train code at far left to find out its current times.
With details of
booked train paths including freight and steam specials. The train may not run or may be delayed or cancelled or rerouted. The headcode (eg 1G45) indicates the class of train- starting with a 1 or 2 for passenger, and 4,6,7,8 for freight while 5 is empty carriages. The Ind code may be Working TimeTable(WTT), Variation (VAR), Short Term (special- generally needs up to an hour to be passed around the system once started) (STP), or CANcelled. Click on the headcode for route information. Enter a station, site or junction name. Pass means it passes the point without stopping. NR means No Report- if you see this at a station the train is meant to stop at, the train may have been diverted at short notice.
As an alternative,
Station codes - eg three letter station (TLS) codes used for example by manual ticket office or train crew machines, useful if you are told they can't issue a ticket to a station. For example in Manchester a ticket to
TLC/CRS/NRS MCZ (which may print on the ticket as Manchester CTLZ) includes travel on central zone Metrolink trams from your central Manchester rail station of choice to the city centre. TLC codes originally referred (as CRS or NRS) to Reservation Systems and are now used under the generic title "three letter codes" for station locations.
The NLC code for Manchester with central Metrolink travel is 0451 (sometimes as 045100), compared to Manchester Stations which is 0438. Link to Phil's web site with list of CRS (aka TLC and also NRS), NLC, TIPLOC and STANOX codes. .
FULL details of ticket restrictions and fares.
"Any permitted route" appears on a lot of tickets - but what routes ARE permitted? Not easy to find out and not all obvious routes are permitted while some odd ones are-
ATOC routeing guide to the rescue. A set of PDF files which, if you work through them carefully and as directed will tell you just how complex routeing really is - and what is and isn't permitted. Be sure to check the "easements" section as some are negative easements, forbidding journeys more generally permitted. Unfortunately permitted routes seem to be changeable without notice and apparently without any formally recognised procedure.
Twitter feeds for:
Northern Rail ||
If you are looking for UK tourist information, best of luck, there are many content-less web sites out there with just a few really useful ones for specific localities. Generally I find the various UK tourist information centres something of a waste of space, the useful TIC is a rarity to be treasured.