Where is the bus stop?
Where is the bus stop? Online bus stop enquiry service - just input your location, road or post code, for a list of bus stops within 1000 meters, select the stop and receive the next ten buses timetabled. The description and the map indicate which side of the road the bus stop details relate to. This site also has by far the most useful bus mapping - it works, no script or flash required- unlike those below- and shows all bus stops within a km of your location (or a specific stop if you prefer). Use the location flag symbols in preference to the blue Google bus stop markers which may be slightly off-place.
Jump to Timetables links
I have included a form to use for National journies. Most of the journey data is fairly up to date but some elements (bus stop locations) may not be refreshed for some months. Live bus journey problems are only covered by individual operator web sites or twitter feeds.
Google maps uk -zoom in and then click the blue bus stop icon. Google can offer walking routes as well as bus services select the option Directions. Somewhat imperfect- in 2015 suggested I walk for 30 minutes instead of taking a direct bus due in a few minutes.
Immediately below, an input form for East Midlands England traveline for journeys to and from anywhere. They have restricted fare and timetable information. See next section for other timetables.
Warning Beware the "towards" indications from Traveline, to travel from Stockport to Stepping Hill they suggest a bus "towards Manchester" - WRONG! Try "away from Manchester" instead. Traveline depends upon data supplied via a national arrangement and some sources may supply incorrect or corrupt files from time to time. Few operating SMA (Manchester) buses were listed for 2nd Jan 2017 and SMA were operating top secret timetables Jan 3rd to 6th- not even available on their own website leaving many people waiting for buses that were not running. Many bus diversions occur (sometimes for weeks) without any local notice or advice to Traveline.
Do try not to call Travelines 0871 telephone number which is a premium call- as at 7/15 it cost 12p per minute PLUS the operators charge which may be over 40p per minute- total over 50p per minute! Definitely a premium charge. And they couldn't assist me when I was waiting for buses that never came either.
National coverage from Traveline East Midlands: National Journey Details
A lovely html (scrapable) format of timetable is available from the regional traveline websites, but only for their area, not nationwide. Here are some timetable resources:
East Midlands (places South of Cheshire and Yorkshire excluding TfL London area)
Transport for Greater Manchester USED to have a friendly easy to use site... you know what comes next... moved to an incredibly badly coded Groovy site which is rubbish,
new Timetables page which works but is not ideal and some links don't go to the right timetables due to apparent OCR errors. Timetables in pdf format- these are the official timetables and you will see that the high frequency services still have the restrictions (1) "at least every 10 minutes" (no detailed data) and (2) No part route services listed within those ten minutes.
The old county of Cheshire was split in two in 2009 (on 1st April no less) and subsequently subsidised bus services virtually disappeared, notably journies to neighbouring counties almost ceased.
High Peak Twitter
Bus route maps
Maps of bus services:
Cheshire West local area maps
|| Cheshire East does not believe in transport maps at all.
Greater Manchester area bus route maps are split into large areas, the maps are large (4MB) PNG images. NOTE these are undated and may be well out of date. Also if you know the bus route number, the timetable (SEE ABOVE) includes a rough map.
Free buses in Greater Manchester::-
Important Note: Manchester roads are subject to wholesale closure for road works and special events. The shuttle buses divert without notice (in one case for 5 months) and without any indication of diverted routes. Cessation of routes for events may be marked on stops. but diversions are usually not indicated on stops. Treat the online maps as indicative and be ready for a long walk.
There are three free buses around Manchester centre, called metroshuttles. Services often enhanced at Christmas (longer operation).
There is one free circular bus in Bolton, one free circular shuttle bus in Stockport.
tfgm metroshuttle maps. NOTE Manchester Metroshuttle 1,2,3 will NOT call at Piccadilly Railway station on Saturday or Sunday until 18th March 2018.
Travelling in Manchester? Note that the tram and rail networks are subject to significant works and disruption. The bus stop outside Manchester Piccadilly railway station on London Road is CLOSED until further notice.. The tram service between Piccadilly Station and Victoria Station is one tram every 12 minutes (Route Bury-Piccadilly Station, Line 4). The Metroshuttle bus 2 runs from Piccadilly Station on Mon-Fri daytime only every 10 minutes up to about 6.15pm. Trams are subject to frequent bus replacement which is not always clearly indicated or signposted. The tram web site can be wrong. Additionally, there are frequent road closures and bus diversions in Manchester. It is best to avoid Manchester or assume an extra hour on your journey and note it is often faster to walk due to severe traffic congestion. There is a new railway route between Victoria and Oxford Road, taking less than ten minutes- but only every hour....
Twitter feeds for:
Stagecoach Manchester ||
High Peak buses
CARE- There are a lot of engineering rail closures especially at weekends - and none of the following sites are fully up to date as the track owner is not telling the
operators in time. Treat all sources of information with doubt especially if your journey is more than a week in the future! Take plenty of food and drink as even a local one hour
journey could end up taking four hours (discovered the hard way...). UK Train times and fares:
beware of using the so called "information points" at railway stations. Some of these are operated by National Rail and will only make a time restricted telephone call to their off-shore call centre, where English is poor, and information is less than is available on line. They can offer no assistance if you need help and no information on any operating problems. Only the current timetable. The calls are automatically disconnected, usually before you receive any information. After our own nightmare we heard of a family in Norfolk similarly stranded with a no-help-at-all help point who were forced to call the police for assistance when stranded with a young family for several hours and an entirely unhelpful off-shore call-point service. Use a mobile phone or phone kiosk to call the station operator- the number may be on a poster at or near the station.
which has the full official data -as up to date as exists for times- but for fares, there are severe problems with the web site for some journeys. Accessible UK Train Timetables
There are now so many ticket restrictions that National Rail and the train operators themselves are no longer able to cope and the railway computer systems may force train staff to sell you more expensive tickets. Note that a ticket price may only cover one particular train booked at one location at one instant!
It is often cheaper (by a tenner or more sometimes) to split your ticket, especially if you can move a portion of the journey out of peak hours, reduce cross county boundary journeys, or take advantage of greater discounts for shorter journies. eg For one particular train from Manchester to Derby, you can save ten pounds by buying a return ticket Stockport-Sheffield and a separate return ticket Sheffield-Derby. After 4pm a Virgin-only return ticket Stockport-Manchester is half the cost of an "any train" return.
On times, be sure to use "check for updates" or "bulletins" for the most recent information. If it goes wrong, remember: if delayed over 30 minutes, have the guard stamp your ticket, keep your ticket, and apply for "compensation", which starts at a minimum of 20% for an hours delay, and depending on operator, may be 100% or rarely more. You may need to contact "Passenger Focus" to resolve problems. The official National Rail (Mobile) website HAS a mobile version but will redirect most devices to the none-mobile site if it doesn't think you really are using a mobile phone.
train delays-and Cleared incidents- note
that the 2004 revamp of the site seems to have caused it to miss a lot of serious delays,
or report them later. Local North West delays seem almost never to appear. Northern
Rail have now contracted out their own journey problem reporting to
Journeycheck but they don't always show a resumption of services. Current service updates may be well down the page- search for "service update".
WALES: Also having cancellations not always listed on Nationalrail are Arriva, whose passenger information displays are often wrong, whose information points have none, and whose web site is unuseable. They are also overwhelmed with passenger complaints, in 2015 taking sometimes over six months to respond, well outside their ten working day target. Travel by train in Wales at your own risk! 2016- However... an email to their web supplier seems to have resulted in this Arriva train disruption page. Note however that despite Arriva Wales SAYING they will improve passenger information on disrupted services, they have in reality actually reduced that information and you will often find yourself on a bus you didn't know about (or standing on a platform as a replacement bus whizzes past outside!) or stranded in the middle of uninhabited countryside with no assistance.
UK Live Arrival and Departure Boards has the web equivalent of the tv monitors you
see at railway stations, giving arrivals and departures in the next few hours. NOTE a train shows as NO REPORT until it passes a reporting point.
but you do need the absolutely correct station name (or code).
Beware of duplicated station names! Do you want Adlington (Lancs) or Adlington (Ches)! Adlington in Lancashire is tlc ADL. Get the three letter code from the Phil's site below:
An alternate using Open Rail data is
Trains.im which lists trains arrivals and departures in scheduled order- click the blue train code at far left to find out its current times.
An interesting site with details of
booked train paths including freight and steam specials! - this details trains booked to use the line. The train may not run or may be delayed or cancelled. Generally, engineering works will be allowed for a day or two before the journey, but not emergency works. The headcode (eg 1G45) indicates the class of train- starting with a 1 or 2 for passenger, and 4,6,7,8 for freight while 5 is empty carriages. The Ind code may be Working TimeTable(WTT), Variation (VAR), Short Term (special- generally needs up to an hour to be passed around the system once started) (STP), or CANcelled. Click on the headcode for route information. Enter a station, site or junction name. Pass means it passes the point without stopping. NR means No Report- if you see this at a station the train is meant to stop at, the train may have been diverted at short notice.
Open Rail (Charlwood House) live rail - requires TIPLOC code or station 3 letter code for best results (see next link). Better at tracking diversions- you need to locate the train on its scheduled route then select the train to find out where it really went.
Station codes - eg three letter station (TLS) codes used for example by manual ticket office or train crew machines, useful if you are told they can't issue a ticket to a station. For example in Manchester a ticket to
TLC/CRS/NRS MCZ (which may print on the ticket as Manchester CTLZ) includes travel on central zone Metrolink trams from your central Manchester rail station of choice to the city centre. TLC codes originally referred (as CRS or NRS) to Reservation Systems and are now used under the generic title "three letter codes" for station locations.
The NLC code for Manchester with central Metrolink travel is 0451 (sometimes as 045100), compared to Manchester Stations which is 0438. Link to Phil's web site with list of CRS (aka TLC and also NRS), NLC, TIPLOC and STANOX codes. .
FULL details of ticket restrictions and fares.
"Any permitted route" appears on a lot of tickets - but what routes ARE permitted? Not easy to find out and not all obvious routes are permitted while some odd ones are-
ATOC routeing guide to the rescue. A set of PDF files which, if you work through them carefully and as directed will tell you just how complex routeing really is - and what is and isn't permitted. Be sure to check the "easements" section as some are negative easements, forbidding journeys more generally permitted. Unfortunately permitted routes seem to be changeable without notice and apparently without any formally recognised procedure.
Twitter feeds for:
Northern Rail ||
If you are looking for UK tourist information, best of luck, there are many content-less web sites out there with just a few really useful ones for specific localities. Generally I find the various UK tourist information centres something of a waste of space, the useful TIC is a rarity to be treasured.